Hurling or camogie, Kilkenny are never really in transition

That Kilkenny are favourites for today's camogie final is all the more remarkable given four key players are missing

ON THE MARK: Laura Murphy of Kilkenny scores her side's first goal during the Glen Dimplex Senior Camogie All-Ireland Championship Semi-Final match between Galway and Kilkenny at Croke Park in Dublin. Photo by Piaras Ó Mídheach/Sportsfile

Will we ever learn, particularly when it comes to Kilkenny? Hurling or camogie, so many of us on the outside have them slated for transition and they go and give us a bloody nose, one more time.

Just like the hurlers, the camogs are still in contention approaching the last hurdle. With old rivals Cork blocking their path, they will hope to go one step further than their male counterparts however.