Angry Fans

Inevitably, after a one-sided hammering like Sunday’s All Ireland senior hurling semi final, fans of the defeated county feel a range of emotions. Anger is undoubtedly one of them. Shell shock is another. That’s the way Limerick fans have reacted, with harsh comments directed at their Bainisteoir, Just-In McCarthy, their county board and even their hapless players.

Angry Fans

But even winners can be unhappy too. The former Bainisteoir of Tipperary, the

irrepressible Babs Keating, is criticised for being too negative in his post-match

comments on the Premier county's spectacular victory.

Despite GAA assurances

to the contrary, hurling fans are still wary of the quality of the re-laid pitch

in Croke Park. They're also worried about declining standards in hurling and they

wish referees would go a bit easier on flashing their yellow cards.

All

these topics, plus a lot more, are sparking the fans' anger this week.

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FAIR PLAY TO the Galway minors. They were well worth their win

over Waterford on Sunday. Having said that, however, Waterford had played several

gruelling games before getting into the semi final whereas Galway just had a bit

of a puck around against Antrim. At that age, when players are not fully developed,

tough games can take a lot more out of them, so it wasn't entirely fair to Waterford.

Now that Galway seniors are starting to find their feet in Leinster, surely their

county board should have the full courage of their convictions and take their

minors and under 21s in as well? Let them earn their places in an All Ireland

semi final.`

The Metal Man

AFR'S SHOUT: Both counties

can take great hope for the future from the quality of hurling and hurlers among

their minors. Galway in the past have found it a challenge to transition great

minors into success at senior level. The more sustained competition of being in

a Leinster championship could help them overcome that. With a Badger and a Fox

on their team, it's a wonder they couldn't find room for a Rabbitte as well.

TICK

IN THE BOOK I FIND IT very irritating the way Liam Sheedy always has his daughters

with him during his post-match interviews on TV. At least on Sunday the RTÉ

cameraman was on the ball and zoomed in on his face after a few seconds to cut

out the two kids.

Clash the Ash

AFR'S SHOUT: The GAA

prides itself on being a family-friendly organisation so we can hardly complain

when one of our leading figures acts on that basis. Many more people would've

been concerned about Liam's blatant 'plug' for his fellow Portroe clubman, Alan

Kelly, during the European elections. It must've helped him anyway, since Alan

is now eligible to don the jersey of Strasbourg Wild Geese, or whatever the club

out there call themselves.

YELLOW CARD TOO MANY GOALS were netted

on Sunday after the scorer received a hand pass. This practice should be banned.

Only defenders should be allowed to hand pass and only inside their own '21'.

Hand passing is an excuse for a lack of skill.

Carbrey

AFR'S

SHOUT: The hand pass is a time honoured part of the game and I see nothing

wrong with it when it is well executed, as the skilful Tipp forwards did to perfection

on Sunday. The change you're suggesting would just introduce yet another pernickety

little rule that our already overburdened refs would have to enforce. The kicked

goal in hurling? Now, if we're talking about rule changes there's an inelegant

practice I wouldn't mind seeing banned.

SUNDAY'S RESULT IS a disaster for

the GAA in Limerick. More and more kids are going to take up rugby and I fear

for the future of Gaelic games in Limerick.

Parish Man

AFR'S

SHOUT: As in many other urban areas, the GAA is finding the going tough in

Limerick city. It's not just competition from rugby and soccer, depending on the

town involved. It's competition from Play Station, the Web and just sheer bone

laziness. But, it's not all gloom. Limerick has a fine football team who could

win a Munster title in the next few years. Building a future in hurling takes

a huge volunteer effort and lots of money and I don't know to what extent Limerick

has these resources now.

YELLOW CARD JUSTIN'S TACTICS ON Sunday

were insane. Dropping Brian Geary back as an extra defender didn't work. It was

finished as a ploy once Tipp scored after only five minutes. It meant that we

had only five forwards against six Tipp backs for the first thirty minutes of

the game.

Roxboro Kid

AFR'S SHOUT: Remember, it was

players in green jerseys who shot all those wides from long distance 'pops' that

could've put Limerick much closer to Tipperary at half time. In the first fifteen

minutes they shot five wides. If you're going to give yourself half a chance,

you have to keep your opponents no more than five points ahead of you - maximum

six - as Waterford demonstrated in the first semi final. Justin can only coach

them on how to hurl. He can't cross the white line and do it for them.

EVEN

AFTER SUCH a comprehensive win on Sunday Babs Keating was still grumbling. An

e-mailer to Jimmy Magee's radio programme asked Babs to say something positive

about the Tipp team for a change and he more or less refused. Lighten up Babs!

The

Babby

AFR'S SHOUT: Babs is one of GAA's great characters blessed

- or maybe cursed - with a very colourful turn of phrase. Even when he was in

charge in the Premier county, he was fairly critical of some of the younger players.

I, too, heard that programme and felt he didn't really warm up in his comments

until he was specifically asked about Noel McGrath. It turned out the great Babs

had played football with Noel's grandfather.

I KNOW WE are not supposed

to say this, but I will anyway. Footballers may be able to get by on it, but both

Sunday's hurling matches again proved that the re-laid sod in Croke Park is not

fit to play hurling on. There were players slipping and sliding all over the place

at vital times. It is back to the way it was when it was laid originally and to

fix that, it had to be re-laid again.

Neutral on Sunday

AFR'S

SHOUT: It's like the elephant in the room that no GAA 'offeeshal' is prepared

to acknowledge. The dynamics of football are different to hurling. Basically,

football is a slower game, but if hurlers are weaving and ducking with the ball

at a faster pace, they seem to keel over. It turned out fine on Sunday when the

game was so one-sided. But what happens if the outcome of Kilkenny's attempt at

a four-in-a-row is determined by a player from either side slipping in front of

goal in the final minute of added time? Will all U2's money be worth that?

I

AM VERY sorry that our great Limerick legend, Mark Foley, will never have a senior

All Ireland medal. Breen and O'Mahony are the only positives. The GAA need to

play provincials earlier and seed accordingly. We should have an open draw with

the winners of Leinster and Munster one and two and the beaten finalists three

and four. We've had two woeful finals and now a nightmare semi final. Thank goodness

we will have a great final but let us reward teams for their efforts and avoid

mismatches. As a Limerick fan, I ask how could a system allow Wexford, Laois,

Dublin or Limerick to get to an All Ireland semi final? Wake up GAA and market

our game. My system allows each team at least two matches and guarantees that

quality teams will make the showcase events. Congratulations to Tipp for saving

this competition.

Jim McGann

AFR'S SHOUT: The way the

championship is currently structured, neither Limerick nor any other county has

to be among the 'top four' teams to get to an All Ireland semi final. If we had

a straight knock-out draw, no provincials and no backdoor, the chances of getting

the 'top four' into the semi finals would increase enormously. Sunday's pairing

is a result of the harebrained way the championship is organised.

TICK

IN THE BOOK I DON'T THINK Tipperary will beat Kilkenny but it will be a great

game. The real issue is how the fifth or sixth team in the country are so far

behind the second best - just like the difference between first and second last

year. It's killing the game because there is no chance for Wexford, Offaly, Limerick,

Clare, Waterford and Cork for some years to come

Ghost of suirlee

AFR'S

SHOUT: One of the so far unheralded legacies of Brian Cody and this superlative

Kilkenny panel is the way they have challenged other hurling counties to fundamentally

re-examine their approach to the game - from under age structures through to training

methods and tactics. That has to be good for the future of hurling. You can take

the 'Davy Fitz' view that other counties are catching up on them or the 'Ger Loughnane'

view that they have fallen back this year. Either way, all the counties you mention

have benefitted from their example and one of them will wrest the crown from Kilkenny

sooner rather than later.

LIMERICK'S APPROACH THIS year should be a lesson

to the Cork set up on how to go about things. Cork should have introduced some

new players and the rebuilding process would already be underway. Now they will

have to wait longer until they will be again regarded as a top team. Justin introduced

quite a few new players this year and, except for Sunday, they have done very

well. Limerick have a quality squad now and should be in the business end of the

championship again next year.

Bobby J

TICK IN THE BOOK LIMERICK

WERE WORSE than Waterford's performance in last year's All Ireland final. I see

Justin in his post-match interview said they are two years behind Tipp in terms

of this team's development and that a few lads may retire but they have young

lads coming through. Justin must have been giving a gentle reminder he is around

for at least a few more years and some senior players might have to move on. He

must be learning from his Waterford experience but I am not sure it will be of

benefit to Limerick.

Laochra Gael

AFR'S SHOUT: I think

Justin's point is that Limerick have some good young players on their panel who

will take a year or two to develop fully. Maybe Waterford this year proved that

any team can bounce back from even the biggest of hammerings if they have the

motivation and leadership required.

EVERYONE KNEW LIMERICK were not in the

top four teams but this is no time for the rest of us to gloat either. You wouldn't

wish what happened on anyone. I really fear for Limerick, though, because at least

Waterford knew there was talent coming up after their All Ireland thrashing but

I really can't see how things are going to improve for Limerick in the near future.

Red

lead

IF KILKENNY HAD scored 6-19 we would never hear the end of it,

so I'll say this much for Tipp: this was an important barrier crossed. All year

people have been banging on about them fading in the second half. Well, on Sunday

they came of age at Croke Park and, mark my words, the momentum is with them.

They won't be beaten by the Cats. Their pace, mobility and skill is a match for

Kilkenny. Will all due respect to Waterford and Limerick, Kilkenny are hopefully

going to get a real challenge for the first time in three years on All Ireland

day.

Cork Rebel

AFR'S SHOUT: The sincere sentiments

of a true Cork friend of Tipperary hurling!

WHILE THE ALL IRELAND football

and hurling championships are in the home straight, the over-hyped soccer season

has just kicked off in England and Scotland. I find it infuriating to see some

people referring to cross-channel teams as 'we' and to see adults who forgot to

grow up going around wearing jerseys with the names of soccer stars on the back.

This is sadder when you consider that we have much more credible role models in

the GAA. Also, I find it annoying to see so many soccer magazines in newsagents

while there are very few similar GAA publications to counter the flood of soccer

propaganda. This is something the powers that be in Croke Park should look into.

Eric

Rice

AFR'S SHOUT: To keep on top of the game, the GAA really

needs the top class coverage it gets from newspapers like 'The Irish Examiner'

and from provincial newspapers across the country. However, for some reason or

other, Croke Park has never put in the considerable effort or resources required

to produce a really first class weekly GAA magazine and, while that attitude continues,

there's a huge gap in their media armoury.

TICK IN THE BOOK WELL DONE

ON your idea of picking a Munster hurling team of the last twenty five years.

However, no marks to whoever picked the adjudication panel. There was only one

neutral selector - Jim O'Sullivan. Throughout his all his journalistic career

he has been most fair-minded in all his writings, especially when Cork were playing.

Donal O'Grady and Tony Considine, despite their fine achievements, have not always

shown the same fairness. I also think that when these two men had such close links

with two wonderful teams, they should have stood aside from the adjudication panel.

Hughie R

AFR'S SHOUT: Good to see more well-deserved

plaudits rolling in for Jim! No one can question O'Grady's and Considine's expertise

and experience. For picking this type of team, it's always a challenge to find

selectors of sufficient standing that their views will be respected. Sure, we

know that both men are committed to their counties, but in their various punditry

roles in recent years they've shown themselves well capable of rising above that.

KILDARE

HAVE NOT been given enough credit for the way they performed against Tyrone. They

have shown Cork a way of beating the Ulster team. At sixty-three minutes gone,

it was level. Kildare were racing up the field and had a man surrounded by four

or five Tyrone players. He didn't get a free, Tyrone went away down the pitch

and got the crucial score to go ahead. They never looked back. While they hey

will be favourites against Cork they are not unbeatable.

Rebel County

AFR'S

SHOUT: I fancy Cork. 'Nuff said!

LET US NOT have any more new stadiums

in the GAA. Instead, let us make Páirc Uí Chaoimh better and maybe

Cusack Park in Ennis as well. Maybe Limerick could look at developing Kilmallock

so there's a good small pitch to play League games on? To be honest, I would prefer

to see any spare money being spent on getting more kids to play the games and

getting them to play them well.

Lopper

AFR'S SHOUT:

In the current economic climate, you won't get many to give you an argument

on that point.

RED CARD THE BIGGEST UNDERACHIEVERS in GAA are Galway

hurlers and Mayo footballers.

Dennis the Menace

AFR'S

SHOUT: The record books don't support your proposition. A big red card to

you for your unfair characterisation of a bunch of guys who are giving it their

best shot.

IT IS HIGH time Waterford manager Davy Fitzgerald stopped

complaining about the media and referees. Every time he is interviewed, he looks

away from the interviewer and can't wait to get a dig in at somebody he perceives

to have done him or his team an injustice. He was at it again after Kilkenny saw

off his side in the All-Ireland semi-final. He said after the game: 'I'm not going

to criticise the ref but I was not happy with him'. Then he turned on the media

and said 'A lot of people called us a lot of things last year. I was abused personally

by certain sections that have a personal vendetta'.

Davy would be better

served by looking at some of his decisions regarding the placing of his team against

Kilkenny and the slowness in moving Aidan Kearney from full-back and Eoin Kelly

to wing-forward, and leaving Big Dan so long on the bench.

Seamus Walsh

AFR'S

SHOUT: Davy may be small enough in stature but he's a larger than life character

in the game of hurling who polarises opinion about himself. Out of his first two

seasons with Waterford, a quieter, more determined Davy may emerge.

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