Ciara Kelly and Richard Hogan: 'People are messy, they hurt each other and themselves'

Dr Richard Hogan and Dr Ciara Kelly are teaming up for a new podcast called They F*ck You Up, which they say looks at the messiness of people’s lives and offers advice and tips, and some levity along the way.

Dr Ciara Kelly and Dr Richard Hogan have a new weekly podcast, They F*ck You Up, it's out now.

The podcast takes its name from the first line in the Philip Larkin poem 'This Be The Verse': “They fuck you up, your mom and dad. They may not mean to, but they do.” 

But the podcast is more than just a parenting or relationship podcast, says psychotherapist Dr Richard Hogan. “It’s us looking at all the difficult stuff that people don't like to talk about. The stuff that doesn't really get looked at in other podcasts.