Venells sobs as she declares love for Post Office during fierce inquiry grilling
Paula Vennells became emotional as she declared her love for the Post Office. Picture: Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry/PA
Paula Vennells sobbed as she declared her âloveâ for the Post Office during a fierce grilling at the Horizon IT inquiry in the UK.
The 65-year-old has appeared visibly emotional on all three days as she gave evidence to the probe, and was forced to compose herself after she was accused of being someone who âcouldnât be botheredâ to find a problem that would devastate the Post Office.
During a tearful episode at Aldwych House in central London, Ms Vennells admitted she had let subpostmasters down, but claimed her âonly motivation was for the best for the Post Office and for the hundreds of postmasters that I metâ.
She denied leading the Post Office through âdeceptionâ and âmanipulationâ, as she told the probe: âI was trying to address a culture in the organisation which I had found to be command and control, where people couldnât speak their minds and they couldnât speak up.
âI was trying to encourage people to work in that way. I did not deal in deception.â
Ms Vennells also claimed she was ânotedâ within the Post Office for âcaring about subpostmastersâ.
She added: âOne of my huge regrets in this is that I did not do that for the subpostmasters affected in this way and that will be with me.â
Under questioning from Sam Stein KC, a lawyer on behalf of a number of subpostmasters, she said she âbelievedâ she was asking the right questions about the Horizon system but accepted she âmay not haveâ, as she was not an IT expert.
Mr Stein said: âMs Vennells, youâre not stupid. You studied French, Russian, business as a degree. You then worked for well-known companies in the UK. Whitbread, Argos, others.
âYou rose through the ranks of the Post Office to become its CEO. You were pushing forward under network transformation. Youâve been quoted as saying that you want and you see a future of the Post Office opening up more branches, 30,000 branches in the future.
âThat was you, Ms Vennells, at the time. A vision you were expressing to everyone that asked about what you could see for the future. And yet here all of these facts were adding up to there being a real problem, a really difficult problem to chew over, right the way through 2013.
âAnd you failed, didnât you? You failed to get into this, on your account, you failed to ask the right questions. You couldnât be bothered, could you Ms Vennells? The risk was too great. Looking under that rock, youâre going to find a problem, itâs going to devastate the Post Office. Ruin it. And you couldnât let that happen, could you, Ms Vennells?â
The former chief executive said: âI loved the Post Office,â after which she grew emotional and paused to compose herself.
Eventually, she continued: âI worked as hard as I possibly could to deliver the best Post Office for the UK.
âIt would have been wonderful to have 30,000 Post Office branches, that would have been the best outcome ever, to have ⊠more Post Offices in more communities.
âWhat I failed to do â and I have made this clear previously â is, I did not recognise ⊠the imbalance of power between the institution and the individual. And I let these people down. I am very aware of that.
âAnd we should have had better governance in place. We should have had better data reporting in place that meant we could see what was happening to individual postmasters and to the system. That was not the case.
âAt no time did I put the Post Office over the cases that were brought forwards. I worked as hard as I could and to the best of my ability and I am very sorry that I was not able to find out what the inquiry has found out.
âI donât know today how much wasnât told to me but my only motivation was for the best for the Post Office and for the hundreds of postmasters that I met, and I regret deeply that I let these people down.â
The ordained priest also admitted she had âno-one to blameâ but herself for what happened during the Horizon scandal.
She told the hearing there are âno wordsâ that will make the âsorrow and what people have gone through any betterâ.
Under questioning from Edward Henry KC, another lawyer representing a number of subpostmasters, she said she âdidnât always take the right pathâ.
She told the hearing she lost all employment since the Court of Appeal passed a judgment which ultimately led to a number of subpostmastersâ convictions being overturned.
Beginning his questioning, Mr Henry said: âThere were so many forks in the road, but you always took the wrong path, didnât you?â
Ms Vennells said: âIt was an extraordinarily complex undertaking and the Post Office and I didnât always take the right path, Iâm very clear about that.â
Questioned on whether she had anyone to blame but herself during the scandal, Ms Vennells said: âAbsolutely. Where I made mistakes and where I made the wrong calls ⊠where I had information and I made the wrong calls, yes, of course.â
Mr Henry went on: âWhat Iâm going to suggest to you is that whatever you did was deliberate, considered and calculated. No-one deceived you, no-one misled you. You set the agenda and the tone for the business.â
Ms Vennells said: âI did my very best through this, and it wasnât good enough, and that is a regret I carry with me.â
More than 700 subpostmasters were prosecuted by the Post Office and handed criminal convictions between 1999 and 2015 as Fujitsuâs faulty Horizon IT system made it appear as though money was missing at their branches.
Hundreds of subpostmasters are still awaiting compensation despite the Government announcing that those who have had convictions quashed are eligible for ÂŁ600,000 (âŹ704,100) payouts.




