Donald Trump in abortion and punishment row

In a heated exchange with MSNBC host Chris Matthews at the taping in a town hall in Green Bay, Wisconsin that aired last night, Trump was asked whether he believes that abortion should be outlawed in the country.
After an extended back-and-forth, the billionaire businessman said āyou have to banā them and that, āthere has to be some form of punishmentā for women who violate that restriction.