Are John Cleary and Glenn Ryan the right men at wrong time for Cork and Kildare? 

PENSIVE: Cork manager John Cleary after his side's defeat in Ballybofey.

It’s a feeling that nagged around this time last year when their teams were struggling as it does now again – are John Cleary and Glenn Ryan the right men at the wrong time?

In truth, both men should have been senior managers of their native counties long before they were appointed. A massive 14 years passed between Ryan stepping down as Kildare U21 manager and taking charge of his first senior game.