Taoiseach shares his 'count to 10' rule when 'something gets said from the Oval Office'

On the podcast, Taoiseach Micheál Martin also said the presidency is not on the horizon for him.

Taoiseach Micheál Martin has spoken of the “count to 10 rule” he adopts when dealing with the Oval Office.

On a new podcast hosted by former president Mary McAleese and broadcaster Mary Kennedy, Mr Martin spoke “frankly” about Mr Trump and Irish-American relations.