You heard the views of the Irish camp after losing to New Zealand last November.

Let’s be blunt: do you deserve to win when you fail to score in the entire second half and manage only three points in the last 60 minutes?

He was making a stand for sure, but when an unflinching Martin Johnson would not be moved from that red carpet in Lansdowne Road 10 years ago, no one could have known that year would represent a last stand for England too.