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Kieran Shannon: The Mac and Jack show: the first all-returning All-Ireland

Sunday is the first All-Ireland where the respective bainisteoirs are returning managers. It isn't always a good idea, and only works in exceptional circumstances - with change required on all sides
Kieran Shannon: The Mac and Jack show: the first all-returning All-Ireland

RETURNING MANAGERS: Jim McGuinness and Jack O'Connor will face on in the first All-Ireland SFC with returning managers.

WE’VE never had this before, in either code. Marry the return of the Mac that is McGuinness’s with Jack being back yet again for the last game of the year and you’ve the first-ever All-Ireland final where both managers are returning managers.

It is a remarkable achievement by both men. To appreciate and even possess the wisdom of Heraclitus when before them so many other greats have approached a familiar river bank, taken the plunge, but learned the hard way that no man ever really steps into the same river twice, for it is not the same river and he’s not the same man. The river, like the game, has changed, and to navigate those turbulent waters and reach the other side you’ve to change and have changed with them, otherwise you’ll be left floundering, swept away, never quite the same, a yesterday’s man.

In his first coming, Babs Keating was more than just a Moses who led his people to the promised land. He was a Messiah, fresh, cutting edge, a players’ man.

When he returned to the Tipperary job in the autumn of 2005 at 61, the same age O’Connor was when he took up the Kerry gig for a third time, Keating was no longer any of those things.

Instead of getting his players all dressed up in suits on matchday, he soon declared or found them dead, only to wash them. “Too educated” and too uppity, including Brendan Cummins, Eoin Kelly, and Lar Corbett, all previous All-Ireland winners and future All-Stars that he dropped at some point.

“I found a huge difference between the type of players I had in the dressing room [and] what was there the previous time,” Keating would reflect over a decade later. “The fun we had in the old days, with the old squad, no matter who you sat beside, you enjoyed it. [Second time around] I found a different bunch.”

The disconnect, even dislike, went both ways. “I genuinely don’t have a clue what to put in and what to leave out about the second coming of Babs Keating,” Lar Corbett would write in his autobiography before offering a sample of bizarre episodes like when he and four others were called into the showers area minutes before an All-Ireland qualifier and told that while they had been on the named starting 15, they were now dropped.

“The more Babs criticised us in the public, the more we became a shambles... On the only places that mattered —the training paddock and the field of play — the drills were poor and lacked intensity. All we were doing in 2006 and 2007 was fulfilling fixtures
 We were a broken team by the time his term ended.”

Last Sunday Keating was at the All-Ireland final, able to enjoy like every other Tipperary person the continuous fruits of the legacy of his first coming; all these decades on, his second coming is a mere footnote, virtually forgotten. But ask him to remember it and there’s still pain there. “The biggest mistake of my life,” he told reporters a couple of years ago. “They were a hard two years. I don’t want to relive them.”

On Leeside, the second coming of a god went considerably better. In Jimmy Barry-Murphy’s four years back over Cork there wasn’t a season where he didn’t either reach a league final (2012 and 2015) or an All-Ireland final (2013) or win a Munster final (2014). His genial, genuine manner meant he still retained the affection and respect of players.

But unlike Justin McCarthy, Johnny Clifford, and Canon Michael O’Brien, he failed to bring an All-Ireland back to Cork on his second time round. Like Babs, if he had it back he wouldn’t have gone back.

“I regret it,” he told Denis Walsh for the Irish Times a year ago. “I had been out of the scene. The draw is there when you’re asked but
 I was out and I should have stayed out.”

Gerald McCarthy, in hindsight, would probably feel the same about his return in the late noughties, though a horrendous winter on Leeside in part stemmed from his reluctance to step away.

Sometimes even managers that players have clamoured to return or remain on aren’t quite what they thought they were getting.

Éamon Coleman for a generation or two of Derry players was always their man, not least for his line and motto that “the players is the men”. After he was infamously let go by the county board within 12 months of delivering Derry their only All-Ireland, he took up in Longford but made no secret that Longford wasn’t Derry. When he did get his wish to return to Derry, he found Derry wasn’t quite Derry either, or rather Coleman wasn’t quite Coleman.

“The work it takes is tarra,” he’d tell his niece and god-daughter Maria McCourt when they sat down during in his final season over Derry in 2002 for a chat that would draw much of the basis of Coleman’s posthumous book. “I’m tired now and I’ll be glad to give it up. It doesn’t come as easy to me now. I would be soft really and it’s harder to bollock somebody now than it was in ’92 or ’93. I’m more mature, mellowed by time, and when you mellow you lose something.”

Coleman’s return was still more than respectable. In 2000 he led Derry to a league either side of a couple of one-point championship defeats to an exceptional Armagh team. In 2001 he brought them back to an All-Ireland semi-final through the newly-installed backdoor. Such achievements aren’t even mentioned in the book McCourt brought out to coincide with the 25th anniversary of Derry’s All-Ireland win. The book was called The Boys of ’93, about and by The Boy of ’93. Not the one of 2001 or 2002.

JIM McGUINNESS, upon returning to Donegal, was the same age as Coleman was going back to Derry: 51. But a 50-something man or manager doesn’t seem to be as old in body or mind as a 50-something even a decade ago, especially one like McGuinness. Unlike Coleman and so many giants of the late 20th century, his vitality, energy, and drive has approximated that of his first coming.

He’s also of a generation that was largely college educated, and conscious of the need to continuously upskill, to have a growth mindset. Though he had stepped away from the game, it hadn’t passed him out. From a different, unique vantage point of coaching the most international sport of them all, he was ready to go ahead of it again. “Definitely all those [soccer] experiences help,” he said.

“Sitting with other coaches that are elite and listening to them, how they problem-solve and put game plans together.”

Every All-Ireland Donegal have won to date has been by a returning manager or one that would become one. Brian McEniff remarkably had already led Donegal to their maiden Ulster title of 1972 as a player-manager before he led the county to its maiden All-Ireland in 1992, featuring McGuinness as a rookie.

When McGuinness was in his final year, over a decade on, McEniff was back at the helm. That last of his five stints over the team was hardly a disaster but it was hardly high performance either.

The day of their 2003 first-round championship match against Fermanagh, McGuinness and his teammates got on the team bus, having no idea of the magical mystery tour they were about to embark on.

“We stopped off in Pettigo,” Kevin Cassidy would recall.

“There was bunting and banners up and everything. We thought there must have been a festival on. But no, it was for us. Brian stood at the front and announced, ‘Right boys, we have a wee function to go here.’ We got off the bus and the 1992 All-Ireland song ‘Walking Tall in Donegal’ by Margo was playing through speakers. Women and children were asking us to sign autographs.”

Later, they got back on the bus to go to Enniskillen, where Fermanagh, by Cassidy’s admission “hammered us off the field”.

Yet later that year Donegal still ended up in an All-Ireland semi-final, having beaten Galway in a quarter-final replay after McEniff went on every local radio station and rallied the county to turn Castlebar into a “pilgrimage”.

That was McEniff and his last stint. Sometimes inspired, sometimes outdated. Hit and miss.

In McGuinness’s first and second comings there have been no morning pitstops in Pettigo.

Mayo football has quite a record of going back to old managers — Maughan, O’Mahony, Holmes, and Horan — who all won some silverware during both their first and second comings without landing the biggest prize of all.

IN KERRY they also have a tendency to go back to someone who has been there before. Only it’s the same guy each time. Jack. Micko might have had a brilliant second stint with Kildare but in Kerry, since Dr Éamonn O’Sullivan finished up in the 60s, Jack’s the only one that’s gone back.

TomĂĄs Ó SĂ© played for O’Connor in both his first and second stints and found him tactically astute each time. On reflection though, Jack’s second time around was “different”. O’Connor had released the keys to the Kingdom in the intervening years and for Ó SĂ© a principle of trust had been compromised. “We won the All-Ireland his first year back but not afterwards. Did it make a difference? At that level, the very top, I think it does. I think it was an issue. Darragh was the same.”

It’s hardly an issue in his third stint. No player mentioned in the book is still playing now. They’ve moved on while he has too, keeping up to pace, combining his old-school instincts with an appreciation of the input of Cian O’Neill and his ilk with “what they call cognitive overload” and other sports science concepts.

“He’s also very good at knowing the right thing to say, especially around the big games,” Éamon Fitzmaurice would observe the night O’Connor delivered the 2022 All-Ireland. “And there’s a bit of craic about Jack as well.”

Combine all that and it’s why he is on the verge of joining Cyril Farrell as a manager who has won two All-Irelands in any stint after his first; the two he has won since his initial stint were over two separate terms.

But further down the touchline will be someone on the verge of doing a Liam Sheedy — someone decidedly-new school who has come back and innovated and won again.

That is why they were each asked back.

And they’re now in the first-ever all-returning managers’ All-Ireland final.

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