Luke Rix-Standing chats with wildlife TV presenter Kate Humble about the challenges facing the environment, and finds her in polemical form
After six years of Springwatch, three of Lambing Live, and a succession of BBC programmes, presenter Kate Humble has become synonymous with wildlife television.
She’s the perfect person to sit and chat about the world, because, over the course of her career, she’s seen most of it.
Aged 19, she went on a nine-month solo trip across Africa and she’s barely paused for breath since.
Naturalist, naturist, and former president of the RSPB (Royal Society for the Protection of Birds), Humble is under no illusions about the state of the planet.
She is not best pleased about it.
“We’ve got into a terrible habit of buying things and throwing away the packaging. Plastic pots, coffee cups, and almost everything we buy for our homes.
"Obviously, some is necessary, but a lot isn’t. I’ve been very lucky and travelled to lots of different parts of the world; some countries which, some might say, are not as developed as the UK.
"But they certainly don’t generate the amount of waste and rubbish that we do.”
“No, I think it is a developed world problem. We’ve become a society that seems to value convenience over everything else, and with that comes a lot of waste.
"I went to Rwanda a couple of years ago — a country with an astonishingly brutal history — and there was something about it I just couldn’t quite put my finger on.
"Then, I realised that it’s the cleanest place I’ve ever been.
"The president has banned plastic bags — you can’t use them, you can’t bring them in, they’re just banned — and this in a country that suffered a genocide 25 years ago.
"It’s so sad that somewhere rubbish-free is so startlingly noticeable, but if they can do that, why can’t we?”
“Well, there’s the terrible reality of landfill. There is only so much land and we’re filling it with rubbish.
"All the stuff that can’t be recycled sits in the Earth and gradually breaks down, and all the chemicals seep into the soil.
"We need to have a whole cultural shift in the way that we behave. The thing that really makes me furious is that we know how damaging this is.
"If there are still human beings on this planet in 200 years’ time, which I slightly hope there aren’t, they’re going to look back at our generation and go, ‘What the f***?’ It’s really bad for us.
"We’re poisoning the very environment we rely on. Shouldn’t that matter enough? Apparently not.”
“Just get rid of humans; my husband is terrified that the world will one day wake to find me as their dictator!
"Joking apart, we are making changes and I don’t want to get too gloomy, but we’re not doing things fast enough and we’ve all got to commit.
"Do I really need to buy something in a plastic pot? Can I buy coffee in my own recycled mug? Can I reuse this packaging? Do we need to buy endless new clothes every season? No, we don’t.
"There’s plenty in your wardrobe that’s still nice. I’m wearing a pair of knickers I don’t even want to tell you how old!
"You can be really happy without loads of stuff.
"Nature is remarkable at clawing its way back every time we do something catastrophic, but there will come a point where it won’t be able to fix things any more.
"We’ve got to take some responsibility.”
“I do, but a lot of these big businesses are dependent on us, as consumers, for their very existence.
"Without doubt, it’s consumers — ordinary people — who have pushed the plastic revolution onto the political agenda.
"Of course, big companies should do more, but they will do more if we say, ‘Right, we’re not going to buy from that big company any more’.
"We do have power, as individuals, and we should absolutely exercise it.
"Some of us, myself included, have been banging on about plastic for 20 or 30 years, so it’s weird that it’s suddenly come into the public consciousness now.
"There’s been programmes and films and startling images before. I mean it’s brilliant — hooray — but strange.”
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“I don’t know, but I do think that in times of political turmoil, life feels uncertain.
"Young people are getting to the end of their school days and thinking, ‘what does the future hold for me?’
"We’re seeing a slow realisation that it’s in our hands, and climate change has begun affecting all of us, regardless of where we live.
"Maybe, just maybe, some consciousness is creeping in. Now we need to do something about it.”
Kate Humble has recently helped launch the Dettol Trigger Project, to inspire people to make small changes to reduce household waste and trigger a cleaner world.